Shut the Front Door with Dr. Doireann O'Leary

Today we are joined by a front-liner and someone who has taken the bar and raised it in terms of pushing trusted medical advice out to the general public. Dr Doireann O'Leary is a GP working in Cork's largest general practice - My Cork GP. As well as working as a GP during this crisis, Dr Doireann uses her Instagram account with over 155,000 followers as a method to push out sound advice surrounding Covid 19. She is truly an inspiration and if you are not already following her, I would now. Married to Peter, a surgeon, Doireann promotes healthy living and also dabbles in her love of fashion via her page. A regular on Newstalk and many other publications across Ireland, it's my great pleasure to now speak to Dr Doireann O'Leary.

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Transcript

spk_0:   0:03
Hi, I'm Arlene McIntyre, creative director, adventurer design, and you're listening to shut the front door, a lighthearted podcast that will bring you through the front door and into the homes of influential and interesting people. Home for me is one of the most important things in my life. My career has fortunately give me the opportunity to work closely with people and to help to create a home they will cherish forever. WeII. We're joined by a front liner and someone who has taken the bar and raise it in terms of pushing trusted medical advice out to the general public. Dr. Durant O'Leary is a GP working uncorks the largest general practise my Cork GP as well as working as a GP during the crisis, Dr Dorian uses her INSTAGRAM account with over 155,000 followers as a method to push out sound advice surrounding covert 19. She is truly an inspiration, and if you were not already following her, I would highly recommend that you do. Now Married to Peter, a surgeon during promotes healthy living and also dabbles in her love of fashion via her page, a regular on news talk and many other publications across Ireland. It's my great pleasure to know. Speak to Dr Darren O'Leary. So, Darren, how are you coping during this very difficult time? I mean, you're absolutely all over Instagram. You've been massively inspirational to so many people. Always listening to you on news. Talk on. I'm just really interested in chatting with you today on your views on where we are now. And if Ireland is doing a good job on when do you see this finishing

spk_1:   1:30
eso? Thank you for your kind words, Arlene, you know, Ireland is doing a good job. We've really come together. A society and a population on communities across Ireland have worked so hard on DH. I made so many personal sacrifices for the greater good and for the good of society on DH two, really, in order to protect our most vulnerable fishes. And so those with underlying conditions Aaron, over age 70 on DH. I noticed in the last two weeks or so that we are for me at the General Practitioner in Cork. Things are kind of almost a little wish. There is bits of normality coming back. So at the start of this in early March, you know, we have to change how we worked overnight and general practise on DH. It was there was maybe two or three weeks where we have to change everything and we had to learn fast on DH. We have. You know, we did a lot of telly conferences on DH. It was kind of day in life updating ourselves, learning about Corona virus, learning what we need to do to stop the spread of learning, how to identify us, learning how we, you know, treat it. There was two or three weeks where this was, you know, all consuming for me as as a GP. But as things have have settled on Daz, we've slowed the spread. We have flattened the curve in Ireland. And as we've seen that curved flatten, we are seeing things restore to normality a little bit on the front line, in my experience as a GP that people are now coming back to me with their normal general practise problems. So I really noticed a big change in the on my experience on the front line in Cork that we are starting to see glimmers of normality restore, which is really nice, really good to see and really a testament, you know, to the Irish people who have made personal sacrifices to make this happen. Though things were full on at the start, they were all consuming. You know, I have to admit myself. I was anxious that I was nervous. You know, I was nervous for my patients, for myself, my family. What was going to happen? What was gonna happen to the hospital system? Um, well, thankfully, we've done well on DH. Hopefully that success continues. You know, hopefully we continue at this good work and continue to flatten the curve.

spk_0:   4:06
Yes, absolutely. And I'm sure that you're glued to the news like everybody else. I mean, when you have time to watch the news and just to see you know, the nursing home situation is just very saddening.

spk_1:   4:18
It's so heartbreaking. Arlene, on DH, my heart just breaks for thie. Nursing home patients. Who you must be frightened. You know this is their home. This is where they live. This isn't a hospital to them. You know, the nursing home is their home on DH. It's so it's so awful for them. They're not to be able to have visitors, not able to see their loved ones. A lot of them maybe might not fully understand why that's the case, which can be extremely difficult as well. And then I also feel so much for the staff of the nursing homes who do you know on a normal day? But even without Corona, virus do the most just kind ist most amazing work there really incredible nurses who work in nursing homes doing amazing work, and now they're going to work every day and really, really difficult situation And, you know, putting their own health at risk to try to have the nursing home patient. So it is. It's an extremely my breaking and difficult a difficult situation

spk_0:   5:31
exactly. And, of course, they're going into work every day, you know, fighting fires on DH, then they don't have the correct P p E, which is a massive issue at the moment, isn't it?

spk_1:   5:41
A day is an issue for nursing home stuff on. For for the health care assistance on the scarcity ofthe peopIe is is so so it's so sod on DSo a frightening on it is a global issue. Thie scarce. Cecile P. P and I know I've heard of some of my friends who were working on acute hospitals as well. Where one member of the team you know, the most senior member is the person who has given the PP on DH. Everybody else doesn't get it. I know the government are working very hard trying to get the right peopie for front find stuff. Ah, nde. You know, hopefully we will get there. But I know it's an international issue and it's just really is so difficult. And the people who are going to work every day in our hospitals, in our accused hospitals, on DH in our nursing homes, you know, without you we would die thie correct BP. We are putting their own lives at risk, you know, for the sake of older. So really, they are truly remarkable people, very brief people and doing incredible work.

spk_0:   6:53
They really are. It's funny. Yesterday on Instagram, I came across where Prada is now, um developing PP eager and using all of their seamstresses to start making masks and anything that they could do to help. It's just incredible seeing Big Brown's getting behind this.

spk_1:   7:10
It's amazing, you know, like people like I'm seeing you and seeing a lot of it on Instagram as well. I didn't know Prada was doing it. I need to get on to my boss about getting us some product. Exactly. In fact, you're you're creating

spk_0:   7:24
our own masks as well. We've got her first few boxes, and so I'll send you down A few.

spk_1:   7:30
Amazing. We'd lost that because, you know, there has been an awful lot of, you know, controversy on and, you know, people wondering, Should you wear clothes masks or shouldn't you? Already, they all need to be hospital grade. But really, in the last few weeks, it's become apparent that they are useful. You know, the cloth masks are useful on. It's really nice to see, you know, the fashion houses used their their their factories, their workers there their platform to make people, you know, they're not, um, you know, trying to, you know, just sell us more clothes. You know that they're really also coming together, doing their bitch on DH making P. P. S O. That really is really You know, it's another great example of people coming together on help in whatever way they can. Andi

spk_0:   8:20
bring tea and creating awareness and I mean, it's just giving back. I think it's all about giving back at the moment on. Definitely. That was a really good move for them. So definite. Durant, can I ask you a few questions about yourself? Tell me a little bit about your childhood home.

spk_1:   8:40
So I was thinking about this. It was a busy, busy house. There was six of us. So my parents, my siblings and I my I was the youngest, two older brothers and an older sister and our dog as well s O. We grew up in the suburbs of Cork City. Andi was It was a really, really busy household. You know, it was all I I just think of, you know, Children coming and going My brothers paint playing sports and my sister, my sister going to piano practise me going to tennis. You know, we used to walk to school as well. On we were just a busy house. My dad was working. My mom was working as teacher, so it was just It was Go, go, go on DH. It was It was a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun as kids together in the house It was busy chaos, you know, we had a lot of fun

spk_0:   9:39
on. And what was your teenage bedroom like?

spk_1:   9:43
My teenage bedroom? Actually, I was lucky in that. By the time I became a teenager, my older brother had moved out. So then I got the best room in the house after that. So he moved out, and then I moved from the box room, which would have been my room as a child into my teenage bedroom. So then I painted a hot pink. You're like, I just think you've ever seen on. I had a pink curtains week. I gotta Ah, vanity table as well with a mirror. So my mom kind of let me run riot without and let me just go pink, Pink, pink. Andi, I really loved that space, eh? So I was lucky that I got that bigger room when I became a teenager. Andi, you know, lots of photo. Collage is on the wall of friends on my dash. Lots of clothes, shoes, photographs and definitely a lot of pig

spk_0:   10:46
on. When did you decide to go into medicine? At what point did you decide that that was the career for you? it

spk_1:   10:51
was. I made the decision. It was around when I was ready to 15 on. It was a time that I realised I was thinking, You know what? Um I got out. What? I like what I enjoy in school on always the ads with science. I just loved the work on studying science, going to science class. I enjoyed us, um, on DH. I, you know, would talk with my mom or parents and my siblings, but saying, Well, if you like saying, you know, what do you do work in a job? Do you do if you like, science on DH A. My science teacher suggested it to me one day. He said, you know, would you consider doing medicine? And for a lot of a lot of the time, I don't myself, I don't know. Medicine is for, you know, vory academic people. I don't know that's me or not. But as time went on, I started to say, Well, look, I'm gonna push myself to do this as much as I can really do want to do it. So it was kind of right. Age 15. The seed was sown, and I had started thinking about it and working towards it on guy worked kind of chose all of my subjects. Based on what would you you would need to get into medical school on DH, then started medical school in UCC in 2006.

spk_0:   12:15
Wow! Fantastic. And you've just gone from strength to strength. I mean, at what point did you were? Where when did you realise how important instagram would be? Um, for you and and in terms of helping people in reaching people,

spk_1:   12:32
it was it was a slow process. It wasn't an over, and I think, but how it kind of started doing it. I started blogging on sharing information online and through Instagram it was around July 2018. That was when I posted my first blood post and where it started wass that I think Instagram, you know, it's really nice. It's a really nice community, really nice online social platform, you know that it's positive on it's a nice space with that. Then I think came a lot of misinformation. I would see things on Instagram, though I would think Oh, look, that's not true. You know, thes Air Force claims this isn't right on. Instead, of, you know, taking the time to highlight, you know, misinformation, our false claims or, you know, just giving out about things that I saw online. I decided, you know, why don't I just produce the facts? So that's kind of how it started. I just wanted to put the facts there that I knew myself to be true and that, like, that, might have other people. So that's how kind of storage I said to myself. OK, don't Don't complain about, you know, all there is putting out information that you know is untrue. You know, instead, create a platform for yourself or you can put out the facts. So that's kind of how I would start. Shit,

spk_0:   14:00
It's great. Wedding of what you've achieved is just phenomenal, I think way. Just gotta watch this space with you, Darren. I will make you tell me a little bit about your home now and where you're living now with your husband.

spk_1:   14:14
So we moved into our home in the It's another sober of Cork City on we kind of. It's kind of I don't know if we're going to call it our forever home, because I think you know, it's hard. Teo. It's hard to say anything is forever. But I do love this. This home. I feel so at home here. We moved in here in 2016 and we looked for a long time before we made the decision Way were looking for maybe about two or three years and this As soon as I saw it, I said, You know, this is perfect. I have we have to live here. And Peter was like throwing the eyes to heaven, you know, because you're meant to kind of play hardball. You meant to say, Oh, I don't know. You know, I don't know if this is right but I said, We have to have it So it's around. I love this. It's, you know, there's a lot of space here and hopefully space for Children. Maybe someday we have great neighbours, you know, it's a nice spot. Last of Children around left of green areas. We're so lucky. I love it here. I don't know if it's our forever home, but could be is I'm really happier.

spk_0:   15:23
And are you want Teo like after a very hard week. How do you relax in the evenings?

spk_1:   15:29
E Well that depends. I do like to go out. We like to go out for dinner in the Una Friday evening or, you know, even even just tonight and as well as nice on watching just TV catching with peace. You're hearing about his week what's going on with him because, you know, the date days could be so busy and there's so much going on that you do have to kind of sit down and talk to each other base. You know what's going on and what's happening with this and you know him telling me about his day. So I like a nice dose as much as I like, and I did not. I mean, not a crazy, no toes on the tone or anything. Bush. You know, a nice dinner. It has to get dressed up on kind of just have to be sure about the week gone by.

spk_0:   16:15
That's amazing on. Do you like travelling? Do you get to get away much? I know at the moment it's difficult to even think about travelling, but I'm sure you had lovely holidays in store for yourself and Peter. This year

spk_1:   16:26
I do like travelling on DH, you know, Yeah, you know, that's one of the hardest things about this at the moment. Isn't because I think we all love to get away. Um, and we kind of we can't plan anything at the moment, But I do. I love to travel way You have gone to Italy a locked off the last few years. Just love Italian food culture, The people. It's amazing. So we've bean to Sicily and amount he Sorrento could pre ish yah And we did. We have done our travelling in Italy and it's been amazing and I d'oh, I love it. I love travel. Love to get away Soap up the song, you know, just get away from it all entirely It's it's so good for the soul S o, you know, hoping to get away again after all of this has settled down

spk_0:   17:18
Exactly And tell me just a little bit about your own personal style. How would you describe your own interior design style in the home?

spk_1:   17:28
It's minimalistic. I don't like closer I and I know that that sometimes can maybe be a bit so I think that you know, people might think, you know why is there no furniture in this woman's face, but I I just I don't like her are like things to be clean, minimalistic. Um, I don't like a lot of colour. I think you can, you know, you can add in colour with accents with flowers or, you know, with a nice ornament or something. But I just I like things to be calm, serene. Why? Spades And I know that, like, seems maybe very boring, But to me, that's really coming. And I just, like, really clean lines. Um, you know, minimalistic on just kind of. I like I like for the same team to be running it through throughout the house, actually as well. You know, I know that you would see in different kinds of that. They won't have a different came in different in different rooms. But I kind of like the heist to kind of feel like it's just, you know, one big space. Almost so I like the house to be on the same team throughout the house. I know that might have to change with Children, of course, but for now it's kind of where rush the moment.

spk_0:   18:43
So you like bright and airy and, um, from what I can see it in when I'm watching you on Instagram. You have sort of a classic contemporary feel going on in your house, and it is quite calm.

spk_1:   18:55
Yes, I do. I love re bright love. Very. You know, I you know always, you know, Windows open on. And you know, the blinds up on DH. Yeah, really bright, fresh, clean feeling. Definitely. And I know, I guess you know, it's maybe not that a lot of personality, Bush. I like the just the thie. Very kind of calm fights of it. You know, I don't I just like I like a blank wall.

spk_0:   19:24
So home during a lot of people are like, Oh, my God, you must have this, that the other in your home. And we have three showrooms and I just see those is like extensions of our homes. I when I come home to my own house, I don't need anything. I just like bare walls and everything. Super simple. So I told him to get that after a really busy week. You just want to come somewhere dropped on your bag and have this sort of calm atmosphere and where you know which reduction, you know, super duper organised. What is your closet like? You don't?

spk_1:   19:59
I wish it was more organised, but I do make an effort, An effort to clear it. I often I'm the I'm the opposite of a hoarder. I I don't like closure, and I don't keep things for very long. So I'm pretty, you know, I guess strict about not having things in my closet for too long. If I'm not wearing it, I will give it to a charity shop or say to a friend. You know, Jeannie, this you want this So I do. I clear things. I was pretty regularly. I have a I have a summer wardrobe worry, but just put on my summer dresses in there. I need to start taking those. I was actually know right now and then I have the winter wardrobe. So we do like to try to keep things organised because the more organised you are, then you see what you have, because if you're not organised, you'll forget that you alone on and you won't wear your clothes on by have a separate kind of work or Drogba's Well, because I think once I wear something to work, then it's just in my head. Then that's just almost the forest. Like I know that wardrobe that just where work is,

spk_0:   21:08
right? I so know So you kind of break them up into different kind of casual where you're going out Friday night gear and then your work here?

spk_1:   21:18
Yes, exactly. And it's taken me a while to get to that, because I spent so many years where everything wass kind of all thrown in together on DH. You really don't wear your clothes when they're like that when you can't see with your own, so when you can see it on, you know what you have? I'm going through your ward or was, well, maybe ever, to earth every two or three months. So you see what you have. You know what you have, and then you wear your clothes. So I've started doing that in the last maybe two or three years, and I've noticed, you know, a big a big difference. In terms of that, I'm more likely just to wear the clothes that I have

spk_0:   21:55
excellent on DH who your style icons

spk_1:   22:00
it very so much. Somebody I've loved since I have for years is Olivia Palermo. I think she's amazing. Love her. She's quite feminine but also quite contemporary and takes chances. And she's not very safe in her approach to fashion. And I love I love her style. I also I also love and 22 people, actually that have been on your forecast, a recently love Millie McIntosh, a stylus. We're also, you know, feminine and just pretty on my lawful Williams style is all. She's amazing, but I think she would have put it back, though

spk_0:   22:44
on Bogan really are both. So different in their style is well but definitely very stylish. Woman Yes.

spk_1:   22:50
Yeah, I think you know, I just like anybody who has fun with close actually, you know who kind of takes a chance on DH, you know, plays around with fashion because I think that's important for us all. You know that you're not strict with yourself. You don't have rules. Try things. You know, if you make a mistake, then you make a mistake. But I clothes should be fun. I think, for the most part of course, they have to be functional, but you know, to have a bit of fun with them try different shapes. Crowder's texture is go for it and just enjoy us on what?

spk_0:   23:19
Your favourite colours. Because they say often the colours that you like to wear, you can often like. For example, when I'm meeting some of my clients often look the textures they're wearing and the colours they're wearing. And that could really gives me a good stare. What colours they'd like to live in?

spk_1:   23:36
Yes, well, I guess so. I colours I loved her. I liked to wear blue. I think it just it kind of just suits me. I love blue. I love to wear pink as well. Even for years, I tried Teo train myself to like not where pain because I think is not cool. You know, you should wear less of it, but I've just given into it now. Would you like to wear pink? And I do actually like little pink accents are in the house, you know, it was like a pink, I think, Rog, or, you know, pink flowers. I really do love think, even though I know it's not making it

spk_0:   24:12
up, so it's a really excellent colour. Papa goes really well with grazie tones, so you'll often see rooms where there's a lot of blue accents. You'll see like a little bunch of Posey's and pink, and it's just for up. It's a great accent tone to have in this space.

spk_1:   24:26
Exactly. That's exactly what it is. Just an accent or a pop of colour, and I'm Lucky is all in the picture. Doesn't object to much to those little pink pop star

spk_0:   24:35
way. Have a lot of couples and they're like, Oh, gosh, I'd love my room to be really Furman And we always kind of enter the pink world in the conversation and then we eventually end up on blush. So blessed things like, Yeah, kind of neutral enough, Yeah, And so tell me in when you're seeing yourself in 5 10 years time, where do you see yourself? Do you see yourself growing within your own practise?

spk_1:   25:02
I don't know. It's funny. Whenever Peter and I talk about this, I say I see myself taking a step back on DH, maybe focusing. Maybe I'm becoming a mother if we if we're lucky enough to have Children someday. But Peter always says during you know that won't happen, you are going to be incapable of ever taking a step back, you know, and that, um, you know, I'll still probably be doing, you know, the working mother thing on DH. Probably. Yeah. Hopefully in time. You know, I get it hard, too tight, So large, Teo to know when it's hard it's hard for me to look into the future because something I've learned over time is that you really just don't know what what's around the corner on what's going to happen. So I guess maybe, yeah, I'll be a working mom, hopefully on DH, you know, still working as a GP and Douglas. I just recently started working there, and I just absolutely love the practise. The patients are so nice. The community is so nice. Our receptionist is amazing. I love it there. So, yeah, as long as I hope to be working there for, like, the next 40 years, but whether whether how I would be working there, you know, whether it's full time or part time or I'm not tour, so we'll see.

spk_0:   26:25
I think you need to get your own show. I

spk_1:   26:29
would love I would love my own show, but

spk_0:   26:32
I think that we're next for you. definitely.

spk_1:   26:35
You know, we'll see what happens. As I say. You know, over the last few years, I really learned that you just don't know what is in store for you. So you just gonna roll with us on DH? You know, make sure you're happy along the way. And, you know, minding your yourself, your priorities, your family and whatever us, you know comes along with that. Just roll with this.

spk_0:   26:55
You've had a lot of struggles in your own personal life. Healthways, haven't you during?

spk_1:   27:00
Yes, I was dying. It was around this time last year. Actually, it was on May. The first Last year I was diagnosed with stage one cervical cancer on Really? Arlene, it was It was really the bleakest. Really. The bleakest grimaced, you know, most awful time in my life.

spk_0:   27:22
You know, I

spk_1:   27:22
was lucky in that. It was called early. Andi, I was cure. It was cured with surgery on DH. Now I'm cancer free. I'm obviously still in and follow up What? It wass. It was a life changing experience on DH. You know, something that has really changed my outlook in life on it's really given. Peter and I issued in size into what it's like being a patient or no being a relative of somebody with with concert. So it's it's it's changed, really, how how we work as doctors. And I think hopefully for the better that you really understand what it's like for a family going through an illness or a cancer diagnosis. Um, so it's really a tough time on DH, you know, a time I very even want to think about It was so bleak.

spk_0:   28:26
I'm sure it's given you an even deeper, greater empathy for your fear patients, even more than ever before is, he said before earlier, um, it it just deepens everything.

spk_1:   28:37
Exactly. And, you know, hopefully that that makes me a better a bachelor. Dr Better gp. You know that I can understand exactly what it is on. You know, I find as well that's probably one of the main things is that I'm less frightened. Tio, go there and talk about cancer with patients before he'd be So you know, would be maybe stepping around as not wanting to frighten the patient or is now I haven't ease with talking about cancer with patients because I you know, I know I know what it is to go through it. So I think that's something that I've learned from it as well. You know, I can really have very frank discussions with patients about cancer, you know?

spk_0:   29:18
Yes, I really admire your so strong during and I personally, I've never experienced cancer, Thank God personally, but I have been very close to people who have experienced it, and it's not an easy process. It's really difficult, and it can either make you or break you. And I think in your case, it's It's enriched you. If anything.

spk_1:   29:38
Yeah, that's a really good word. It's enriched my life, definitely. And given me, um, you know, a new perspective on life and just given me a lot of clarity about what's important, what is important in life and what isn't on. Do you know, I think a lot of people say to me, Oh, you're very strong. But you know, all of us. We all have it in us because we all as human beings haven't have a survival instinct. So a lot of people say, Oh, you know, I don't know how I would handle that if that was me or I don't know if I'd be a strong as you, but, you know, everybody has it early and everybody has, you know, a kn instinct to want to survive. Um, so we're all a lot stronger than we think we are.

spk_0:   30:28
What? That's hopefully true on DH just on this very subject. Are you a spiritual person during?

spk_1:   30:36
You know, it's funny, I'm not, but I am open to that changing. If I find spirituality someday, I'll accept it, and I'll embrace it on DH. I really admire people who are spiritually aunt to find their spirituality to be, you know, something that enriches their life or something that they turned Teo And I think that that's a really positive part of somebody's life. And there are times that I, you know, I thought about it on at the moment. I'm not, but, you know, maybe someday I will be because I do recognise that it is an important part of somebody's life. But I even even through the cancer diagnosis and the treatment and the rest of it, I didn't become spiritually, which is you know, I thought maybe that might change, but it didn't. I think maybe I'm a bit too much of a scientist. Exactly. Look, you know, I just can't be spiritualism, so tow an impression. I'm not Bush. I think that it is a really nice thing for somebody to have in their life. It's a positive thing on DH. Maybe someday I'll become more spiritual. And if you know, there's some sort of a calling for me to become more, more spiritually, I will definitely go with us.

spk_0:   31:55
Okay. Good answer. Andi, do you have any bad habits you'd like to share with us?

spk_1:   32:00
Oh, yeah. Okay. Bad habits. I d'oh! Am I Definitely. I drink too much coffee. I wish I didn't drink as much coffee as I do. Um, you, um maybe maybe a little bit Tio, Um, maybe the two regimented strict on things sometimes, you know? All right, Like, it's aimed just in terms of the heads, like not having closure. Like pick this up after you put that away. Put that away. You know, everything Peter sometimes is like, you know, this is a house we live in this we're allowed to have things around the house, you know that. But I'm always, you know, putting things away. So he says that I hide his things here, that I hide his blinds. Or, you know, I didn't his briefcase or refusing his laptop, and I said, no, I didn't hide it. I put it away, eh? So, yeah, I think that maybe I could I could stand toe loose enough of a motivation.

spk_0:   32:57
And do you have any pets at home? So

spk_1:   33:00
we have two dogs, but currently there with my parents in law who have who are quarantining or south isolating in on and carry by the beach. So the dogs are on the time of their lives running wild on the beach, eh? So we have a cavity under Cabot through and they're living, you know, with my parents, and not at the moment

spk_0:   33:25
they're having fun. Oh, my God, that's so great for them. Wonderful company for them.

spk_1:   33:29
You know, the dogs just so lucky. And, you know, I think my parents and our, you know, enjoying it for the most part, is up. So, you know, the dogs really are having the best time and, you know, getting to kind of get ocean wrong. And, you know, they're being spoiled

spk_0:   33:45
on during Do you mind if I ask you, Is there any words of hope you'd like to share with our listeners? Um ah, on the future of covert 19.

spk_1:   33:56
But thie Yeah, we've done well in Ireland on even if for for listeners in different countries. You know, we it's hard to stay positive in a difficult situation on if you're in the situation where you have, um, Hodge Corona virus yourself or you've lost a loved one because of us. You know, those are really difficult things on DH. I can't you know, I think it's not fair to ask people to be positive. But, you know, I would ask people to be optimistic for the future and optimistic that we will get through this However long it takes. I know, you know, being in lock down or isolation. You know, none of us are really enjoying it. Of course, we all want to get back to our normal life and meet friends and go out. And you know, just the people against the year older relative see our friends go on holidays, but we only to just stay as optimistic as we can that you know, we will get back to normality soon. someday on those good times will come around again on hopefully you know, by this time next year. And I'm nothing is going to take a year to get out of this. But that's something that when I'm in a bad space, I was saying to myself, Okay, what's going on? Where am I gonna be this time next year? And surely it's going to be a better place. So think, by this time next year, this will be, you know, a distant memory on things will hopefully get back to normal soon We'll have our holidays, are sporting events and see our loved ones again soon. So we need to stay optimistic for the future.

spk_0:   35:37
We D'oh! I'm gonna ask you a few quick fire questions, which is a different one thing. This one. OK, you're ready. Grace Tea or coffee? Coffee texture talk, text dusk or dung on taxi rock walk, running or walking Running high straighter Could sure High street instagram Twitter instagram left side of the bed or the right side of it right tight Brought her knickers Bras Trump Oh, Kanye! And this is the last one mask or no mask mask. Thank you. So very much for joining us today. It's been an absolute pleasure chatting to on I hope you take care of yourself. Mind your so

spk_1:   36:26
likewise. Arlene, thank you so much for having me today

spk_0:   36:28
and thank you. And thank you so much for all that you're doing. You know, you're one of the heroes on the front line, and I just wanted to thank you.

spk_1:   36:36
You know, I have to I have to say that like, we're no you. No, me. Anyway, I'm definitely not here just doing my job. And it's my privilege on an honour, an honour to do it. I love my job. I love helping people as much as I can. And really, it's it's it's just my job. And I'm very privileged to get to do it.

spk_0:   36:54
We'll take care of yourself, Stacy. Thank you. Really Miss you